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		<title>Comment on Build / Create &gt; Change by Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on a_remix? &#8211; Chris by Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on BabelSwarm: Art in the Virtual by Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tama Leaver dot Net &#187; A Very CC Year &#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] [Full Sources &amp; Exegesis] [CC BY NC SA] Kiri’s final project for the unit, this time a remix video, takes quite literally the idea that creativity builds upon the past, with this enjoyable video which mashes together a plenitude of videos and photographs … [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by Kiri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to explain to my mum today what participatory culture is, why it&#039;s important. And my mum is relatively computer savvy, but the idea that how culture is now built is changing, that the ways in which people interact are changing (I didn&#039;t use those words, but this is one way I think about it)...her confused looks made me realise something that I occasionally forget in the Comm Studies environment, and with my peers: that there is a fundamental shift in culture and technology that requires a new kind of literacy. That the actions and methods by which gaming, entertainment, education and/including community are approached, created and participated in are vastly different to how they were when books were only in hard copy, audio and video cassettes lost quality as they were copied, and you couldn&#039;t chat to/play with someone on the other side of the globe instantly. Because of the tools provided by digital technology.

Now, some might disagree with me on the &#039;literacy&#039; thing (we&#039;ve had this conversation, right, Chris?), but one of the things that iGen has made clear to me is that this is not simply about learning to use this or that software, or just discussing creativity. It&#039;s made me see my part in the world of digital media, and how the internet is so revolutionary. I wasn&#039;t in the dark about this before, but I have the &#039;tools&#039;, so to speak, to better understand the digital world and the impact it has on actual life.

There was some overlap between the podcast and remix projects, but I think I felt that my topics were different enough that I wasn&#039;t repeating the theme of community too much. When I was creating and analysing my video remix, however, what I kept returning to was how this seemed to be a crux of participatory culture. Taking other people&#039;s stuff and making it your own, insofar as giving it a new/revised meaning in a new context, is a whole other level of sharing. A remix is possible because of communication technologies, because of distribution &#039;by the people, for the people&#039;. And it enables further creativity, further education.

An (interesting) aside is that, in the seminars, by the requirement to produce, create, etc. our own seminar, we each were able to contribute to the overall &#039;meaning&#039; of the unit, more than just by being a student responding to questions. (And in having input into the assignments as well, of course.) It&#039;s like a little image of participatory culture - where the hierarchy of producer/tutor and consumer/student is evened out somewhat. Which is not to say that Tama had no authority and didn&#039;t guide our learning...

I&#039;ve found creating and theorising a good balance. I am perhaps left a little unsure about distinctions between participatory culture &amp; produsage, and other terms like sharing, remixing, p2p, social networking, etc. I know what they are, but sometimes they merge into a big ball in my head. Perhaps there&#039;s truth in this, that they bring us to a single understanding. Or maybe I need to read and understand it further first. 

Overall, this has been one of my favourite units in my university career (it&#039;s not a long list, so lucky you) and has demonstrated some vital information to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to explain to my mum today what participatory culture is, why it&#8217;s important. And my mum is relatively computer savvy, but the idea that how culture is now built is changing, that the ways in which people interact are changing (I didn&#8217;t use those words, but this is one way I think about it)&#8230;her confused looks made me realise something that I occasionally forget in the Comm Studies environment, and with my peers: that there is a fundamental shift in culture and technology that requires a new kind of literacy. That the actions and methods by which gaming, entertainment, education and/including community are approached, created and participated in are vastly different to how they were when books were only in hard copy, audio and video cassettes lost quality as they were copied, and you couldn&#8217;t chat to/play with someone on the other side of the globe instantly. Because of the tools provided by digital technology.</p>
<p>Now, some might disagree with me on the &#8216;literacy&#8217; thing (we&#8217;ve had this conversation, right, Chris?), but one of the things that iGen has made clear to me is that this is not simply about learning to use this or that software, or just discussing creativity. It&#8217;s made me see my part in the world of digital media, and how the internet is so revolutionary. I wasn&#8217;t in the dark about this before, but I have the &#8216;tools&#8217;, so to speak, to better understand the digital world and the impact it has on actual life.</p>
<p>There was some overlap between the podcast and remix projects, but I think I felt that my topics were different enough that I wasn&#8217;t repeating the theme of community too much. When I was creating and analysing my video remix, however, what I kept returning to was how this seemed to be a crux of participatory culture. Taking other people&#8217;s stuff and making it your own, insofar as giving it a new/revised meaning in a new context, is a whole other level of sharing. A remix is possible because of communication technologies, because of distribution &#8216;by the people, for the people&#8217;. And it enables further creativity, further education.</p>
<p>An (interesting) aside is that, in the seminars, by the requirement to produce, create, etc. our own seminar, we each were able to contribute to the overall &#8216;meaning&#8217; of the unit, more than just by being a student responding to questions. (And in having input into the assignments as well, of course.) It&#8217;s like a little image of participatory culture &#8211; where the hierarchy of producer/tutor and consumer/student is evened out somewhat. Which is not to say that Tama had no authority and didn&#8217;t guide our learning&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found creating and theorising a good balance. I am perhaps left a little unsure about distinctions between participatory culture &amp; produsage, and other terms like sharing, remixing, p2p, social networking, etc. I know what they are, but sometimes they merge into a big ball in my head. Perhaps there&#8217;s truth in this, that they bring us to a single understanding. Or maybe I need to read and understand it further first. </p>
<p>Overall, this has been one of my favourite units in my university career (it&#8217;s not a long list, so lucky you) and has demonstrated some vital information to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by stopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>stopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree pretty well wholeheartedly there Alex, this has definitely been one of my favourite units, due equally to our input to its contents, and how it&#039;s so relevant to life in a pretty raw sense, in that we can see everything as it happens.

One of the changes I would make is have the assignments cover a broader scope - they were all (both) basically about community and so on, which I guess is sort of an overarching concept tying all the threads of the unit (our seminar topics) together, so I can see why this was the theme. Maybe that was an aspect that I really only learned myself, and the fact that I did it that way, rather than have it signposted is what increases its value as something learned. Either way, it&#039;s an area of the course I feel like talking about a little bit.</description>
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<p>One of the changes I would make is have the assignments cover a broader scope &#8211; they were all (both) basically about community and so on, which I guess is sort of an overarching concept tying all the threads of the unit (our seminar topics) together, so I can see why this was the theme. Maybe that was an aspect that I really only learned myself, and the fact that I did it that way, rather than have it signposted is what increases its value as something learned. Either way, it&#8217;s an area of the course I feel like talking about a little bit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by alexpond</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All up I’d have to say that this was one of my favorite units – I love how we all were able to design our own seminar and get a chance to explore topics in our own way, which I think helped make a highly relevant course even more so. 
Perhaps maybe at the end of each seminar it would have been good to spend a few more minutes tying the current seminar to the previous ones – just so we could get a better idea of how everything ties together as we go, instead of leaving it mainly to the end of the unit.
I think this unit covers a lot of important things/activities/issues/etc that we are all involved in during our everyday lives, yet without this course we never would have delved that deeply into them (such as p2p networks, privacy online, fandoms, youtube)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All up I’d have to say that this was one of my favorite units – I love how we all were able to design our own seminar and get a chance to explore topics in our own way, which I think helped make a highly relevant course even more so.<br />
Perhaps maybe at the end of each seminar it would have been good to spend a few more minutes tying the current seminar to the previous ones – just so we could get a better idea of how everything ties together as we go, instead of leaving it mainly to the end of the unit.<br />
I think this unit covers a lot of important things/activities/issues/etc that we are all involved in during our everyday lives, yet without this course we never would have delved that deeply into them (such as p2p networks, privacy online, fandoms, youtube)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by Shemila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experiences of doing the two projects have been very enjoyable (and painful!), I guess we all have learned a lot from this course. Frankly I have never been speaking that much in my previous tutes (still not quite much in our seminars...), and the seminar that i have done was a very valuable experience for myself.

I agree with Joanne that citizen journalism would be a good topic to be included in the unit, together with the effects of blogging and the wikipedia, which I think they have constituted the citizen journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experiences of doing the two projects have been very enjoyable (and painful!), I guess we all have learned a lot from this course. Frankly I have never been speaking that much in my previous tutes (still not quite much in our seminars&#8230;), and the seminar that i have done was a very valuable experience for myself.</p>
<p>I agree with Joanne that citizen journalism would be a good topic to be included in the unit, together with the effects of blogging and the wikipedia, which I think they have constituted the citizen journalism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by jhfsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>jhfsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall, the course has given a solid foundation and insightful information about what is participatory culture and digital communication. Our projects are highly relevant with the course. The use of student seminars demonstrates OER. It would have been great it citizen journalism was mentioned in further depth. Perhaps, Creative Commons could be incorporated into citizen journalism???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, the course has given a solid foundation and insightful information about what is participatory culture and digital communication. Our projects are highly relevant with the course. The use of student seminars demonstrates OER. It would have been great it citizen journalism was mentioned in further depth. Perhaps, Creative Commons could be incorporated into citizen journalism???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by jhfsam</title>
		<link>http://igeneration.edublogs.org/2008/10/07/final-seminar-participatory-culture-then-now-and-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>jhfsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shemila, I don’t think participatory culture equals to produsage instead it contributes to it. With reference that what Shemila has pointed out that even the lowest level of society can have a say, its something that is inevitable. Superstruct, as mentioned by Kiri, is a fine example of produsage… other examples would be political forums, blogs and many more. I’m sure there are some forms of produsage, such as a particular section in a newspaper for discussions that have existed before technology set it. Technology has just accelerated how information is disseminated, stored and remixed. Needless to say, remix projects stem from produsage. However, due to produsage, copyright issues have somewhat been reinforced, as people are afraid of using what they have produced. In comes Creative Commons which tries to solve the copyright issues and efforts are on the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shemila, I don’t think participatory culture equals to produsage instead it contributes to it. With reference that what Shemila has pointed out that even the lowest level of society can have a say, its something that is inevitable. Superstruct, as mentioned by Kiri, is a fine example of produsage… other examples would be political forums, blogs and many more. I’m sure there are some forms of produsage, such as a particular section in a newspaper for discussions that have existed before technology set it. Technology has just accelerated how information is disseminated, stored and remixed. Needless to say, remix projects stem from produsage. However, due to produsage, copyright issues have somewhat been reinforced, as people are afraid of using what they have produced. In comes Creative Commons which tries to solve the copyright issues and efforts are on the way!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Seminar: Participatory Culture Then, Now and Tomorrow by Shemila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question, does participatory culture equals to produsage?

I raised this question because it seems to me that everything we have talked about in this unit are more or less produsage of some sort. We, internet users, contributing what we have produced to the internet, and the others look at, or even make use of what we have contributed. I do agree with what is it said in the video that Alex suggested, that people will eventually get a share of revenue from what they have put up. We are evolving to an era that even the lowest level of the society can have a say, because of the huge ripple effect of the internet. I am not quite sure if the predictions in that video would come true, but what matters is, we will have a lot more choices on getting what we want to get and know.</description>
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<p>I raised this question because it seems to me that everything we have talked about in this unit are more or less produsage of some sort. We, internet users, contributing what we have produced to the internet, and the others look at, or even make use of what we have contributed. I do agree with what is it said in the video that Alex suggested, that people will eventually get a share of revenue from what they have put up. We are evolving to an era that even the lowest level of the society can have a say, because of the huge ripple effect of the internet. I am not quite sure if the predictions in that video would come true, but what matters is, we will have a lot more choices on getting what we want to get and know.</p>
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